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Episode 63 of The Crypto Beat was recorded with Tim Copeland and Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan.
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In episode 63 of The Crypto Beat, Bitwise CIO Matt Hougan argues crypto is in a self-fulfilling four-year cycle bear market, where retail investors sold in anticipation of the downturn and made it real, but says this period feels far less existential than 2018 or 2022. He sees BlackRock’s aggressive push into tokenization and DeFi as a landmark signal that on-chain finance is inevitable, though full adoption is a 10- to 15-year story. His 2026 outlook: a grindy bottom with fundamentals outpacing price, setting up 2027 as the breakout year.
OUTLINE
00:00 – Introduction
00:20 – Crypto Winter Check-In
04:03 – When Did the Bear Actually Start?
07:57 – Is This Time Different?
11:44 – BlackRock Goes On-Chain
17:10 – The 10-Year DeFi Adoption Arc
21:17 – Prediction Markets Boom
24:08 – Has Crypto Grown Up?
27:08 – The Strategy Question
29:14 – 2026 Outlook & What Comes Next
Guest links:
Matt Hougan – x.com/Matt_Hougan
Bitwise – x.com/BitwiseInvest
Tim Copeland – x.com/timccopeland
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