Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I’m Kristin Davis, and I want to know. Are
you a Charlotte? You guys, it’s a big day. It’s
a big day. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Honestly, I didn’t know if I was going to be
able to talk Bridget into joining us, but I have.
She is here, the incredible, the one and the only
Bridget moynihan who plays Natasha is here with us. And
I just found out something incredible.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You guys, I did. I admitted something pretty big. It’s big.
Please tell me it’s pretty big, Nurse. Yes, I don’t
know what’s gonna happen if I say this, It’s gonna
be fine.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It’s gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Like I’m gonna cry, Oh my god, this is like
nerve wracking, amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It’s no, We’re just gonna I.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Came in to say that. A. I don’t listen to podcasts.
I just don’t. I don’t know why it’s okay unless
it’s news related, and even that I’ve had to pull back. Sure,
And I’ve never watched the full seasons of Sex in
the City, and nobody knows that. I’ve never admitted that,
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not even to my priest. Wow, I love it so much.
I am so fastbreaking news.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I mean it’s breaking news and it’s fascinating news. Okay,
Because I do think that there is this perception in
the world that all of us actors just watch everything
that we do and are fine with it and you know,
feel proud and glory in it or whatever, Which is
not to say that you don’t feel proud, and you
should feel proud, but it can be hard to watch yourself.
Is that why you don’t watch yourself or the show?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I think it’s two different things.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Ok On.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I never watch shows that I’m in. I see it
for the first time, probably you know, at the premiere
or you know, the first screening, and then I won’t
really go back, Okay, And I mean I just watched
Coyote Ugly for the first time because I think we
had another anniversary and that was the first time I’ve
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seen the movie in probably twenty five years or whatever
the anniversary is. I mean, it was pretty amazing. What
did you think when you watched a great movie?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
A great movie. I read for Coyote Ugly, you did
what role?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I don’t even know what role? Some role where I
was like, there is no way they’re going to hire me.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
For this. It was a very crazy audition process, and
in fact, it was I got that right at the
same time as I got sex in the City. How incredible. Yeah,
right at the same time. I think, I honestly think
I was auditioning for them almost in the same day
or in the same two days. Unbelievable. I mean multiple
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auditioning process you know, yeah, processes. You have to dance.
I had to dance multiple days, dancing in front of
like directors and producers, I.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Know, terrifying to prince, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
God, No, how old were you, I don’t know, older
than most people would have thought. I guess, oh, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Weren’t like twenty two or something.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, yeah, yeah, I was like probably yeah, something like sure, sure,
that’s what I would have thought. That’s what I thought.
And were you scared to audition for that one? No,
because I had this like weird confidence of dancing. I
used to love to dance, but I was not a dancer.
I was just like prom semi proms music on in
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your room dance. I had no formal training. So a
lot of the a lot of the people that went
out for that had a lot more formal training, but
you felt confident. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
See, that’s how when I met you, you seemed supremely confident.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh my gosh. When I went onto the set of
Sex in the City, I was like, I always describe
it as this like double jutch, you know, jump roping. Yeah.
And then I, who was a band at the time,
it really had no experience, only had maybe two small
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independent films under my belt. Jumping into your Sex in
the City world, it was like, you bet, you better
stay on beat, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And you did, and well you really did, you really did.
This is the thing that I think, And this is
what the joy of looking back is, you know, after
all this time, because I have my memories right and
there of course filtered through whatever was going on with
me at.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
The time and that day and whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But when you look back, I mean, you have one
line in the first episode, but you are so present.
First of all, you’re so beautifully cast. But second of all,
you’re so present and you’ I’ve read your interviews where
you you know, I had to look back at what
you’ve said, what you’ve been on record saying whatever, And
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you said, no one told me the plan, No what
I don’t know if the plan was formed and I
don’t know either. I wish I had time to call
Michael Patrick, but he’s working on a different show right now.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But it didn’t.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think what happened because this was the time when
we were starting to trust ourselves and our writers were
starting to trust themselves. I don’t know if the plan
was what it was. I think you showed up and
you were so incredible that the plan became the plan.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Wow, okay, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Because you were, like, first of all, the way you
looked incredible, but second of all.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You’re funny because when I see myself in that first scene, yeah,
that’s not what I see. I see like, oh my god,
can you not smile so much? Like I don’t know
what Chris was saying to me, But I don’t know.
Was it really that funny? I’m not sure, But I
mean it’s just such a masterile, right, And then you
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have Carrie, you, Sarah Jessica Parker coming up and looking
the way she looks, and it’s quite something. It was
quite something. Yeah, I mean, how good was that outfit?
Oh my god? Incredible?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And now there’s still like all the youngsters are trying
to trying to recreate it. Yeah, and It’s funny because
at the time, right me, I’m Southern and you know,
I’m conservative Charlotte, and I remember thinking like, what is
she worrying? Oh my god? And those are the amazing
ones now, you know. And also she looked, I mean,
she could go none wrong. But this is what was
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so great about you and you’re casting and your vibe,
Like it’s really a vibe thing of one line, So
it’s not really about the line, but the way that
you are with him, the way that you look with him,
the fact that you’re so obviously charmed by him, like
you don’t even need lines. It’s like a punch to
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the gut for her and for all of us because
we’re with her right and you have you know, like
a you’re so much the opposite of her in terms
of I feel like you’re equally amazing in the opposite
opposite way. You know, you’re cool where she hot and complicated,
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you’re cool and collected.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And it was like it was like Big had his
perfect woman and two women yeah, like you know, doing
everything he needed, but from two different people.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I agree totally, and also two totally polar opposites, which
then makes you think about him I’m thinking about big.
I don’t know if my listeners are sick of it yet,
but like for me, and I’ve told them this before.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
When I started, I would just.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
See things as Charlotte saw them. I wasn’t complicated enough
to think, like, what do I think about this script?
Is Kristen? And then oh, but I’m gonna play Charlotte.
I was just in it, you know. And also we
were going so fast back in the day. I remember
the hours were so insane. I mean, I don’t know
how much you remember.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But well, I wasn’t there all the time, right, I
would kind of like drop in and drop out and yeah.
So but I mean we were all night. You guys
were working all night. And that was again my first
audition because I’m a very on time person, which means
half an hour early. I’m always early, yeah, And so
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I was at the audition early obviously, and I had
other auditions that day, so I had I was like,
I’m going to get in and out on this. And
then they were running late and running late and running late,
and I’m calling my agents. I’m like, guys, I have
to go to the other one, and they’re like, stay
for this. You need to stay for this. I’m like,
I can’t be late for the next one, and I
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was really I kind of want to be late. I
get and then I was feeling like, why are you late?
And it was one line, it was nice to meet you, right,
that was the one audition line that I was waiting
an hour to say. But we’re but obviously so worth it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But then, so what do you remember, Like how did
it unfold for you? So you get hired for the
one episode theoretically, right, like just one one?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, and what happened next? You remember? No, of course not.
It was just just like, oh, and then they want
you back. But it was just it was casual, kind
of like it was a casual and are you available? Sure? Great?
And that was it. But I do think I don’t
know how many episodes I actually was in. Someone should
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find that out. I don’t think it was many. But
because she was spoken about so much, Yeah, she’s a
much bigger character than whatever appeared on air one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I saw that you had said that interview, and I
thought that this is very, very true. But I also
think that you don’t give yourself enough credit because when
you are there, you have such a power and a resonance,
you know, if it had been someone with less like
kind of presence and groundedness. You have a very grounded
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on screen presence, which I think has has proven true.
And you’re very career, very long and amazing career, fourteen
seasons of Blue Blood. Like it’s incredible, right because you’re
very very grounded, intelligent present, and it’s such a beautiful
woman that’s very powerful.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I don’t know, if you know, I’m gonna hang out
with you more often, definitely. It’s my job to analyze
these things.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And this is what I see so and I think
at the time, and this is what I remember and
feel really horribly guilty about because I was so in it,
you know, and I was obviously Charlotte is like this
fiercely loyal friend that’s one of her big things and
believes in love but also believed in big and Carrie.
You know, I was very pro big Carrie. Charlotte was
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very pro big for Carrie, right until you weren’t exactly
and then I really really was.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Which I did see that episode recently and I was like,
how many friends do that?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh? Which we are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
How many friends say? What are you doing this is horrible.
You should not be having an affair, right. Thank god
you’re the other woman. How would you like it if
this was happening to you, like you really you let
her have it. You gave her the slip side of things.
Thank god, Thank god.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Charlotte does have like a moral compass that is going
to be you know, in action when things get to
the nitty gritty, right, like like she might be kind
of vague and hopeful, and then all of a sudden,
if you’re there, she’s like, you know, I believe in marriage,
and what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Which thank god?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
But I mean, I mean, there’s so much talk to
you about. But one of the things, I just want
to confess this thing to you. So at the time
that you came right, First of all, let me say this.
You know you’re referring to all these auditions. I was
in New York before I got the show, but right
when I got out of college, and I would audition
like twelve times a day or whatever. And I did
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that in la as well, just bam, bam, bam. Some
would be commercial, someone would be you know, guest star,
all the indie different things, right, which I assume you
were also in the mix. Yeah, I am ninety nine
percent sure I sat waiting rooms with you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I’m sure we did, but we didn’t even know.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Now it’s insane to think about, right, And so for me,
I was like, Oh, there’s that beautiful woman and she’s
so tall, she’s gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That’s how I felt, you know what I mean, like
because it would just be all models.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, remember those days, Yes, yes, for the hair commercial, yes,
all of it all.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And then sometimes at the commercial auditions, they’d make you
go in there and dance. Do you remember this space?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I don’t. I just maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I mean, but you were so many things you felt
confident dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It’s a weird. Auditioning is weird, awful. I think it’s
gotten weirder though over the years.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I mean now it’s on tape, you do it in
your house, not bizarre.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I feel like I would have not better at that
than in person. In person, I would just shut down.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And I prefer going in you too, into the audition
with people and casting directors who have read the script
and have better lighting and who can work with you.
I mean, casting directors are amazing, that’s true, that’s true.
We don’t get to see them anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I guess I don’t even understand what’s happening now. I
don’t even get it. I don’t even which.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Is why we’re here in this dark room.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Exactly exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
But luckily we have a whole career that we can
talk about. That’s right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So it’s all good, it’s all good, Okay, So I
want to go back to this thing that I have
to confess to you. So you came, and I remember,
you know, we read the scripts, right, and we’re like,
you know, oh no, he’s good. Come with this.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Girl, And I mean, we hear facts about you.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
He met you in Paris, your character Natasha, he met
you in Paris, you know, in our mind in the
Sex and City world of the characters, he’s gone to
Paris and she’s trying to move on. She thinks he’s
still in Paris, right, which is why it’s such a shock.
At the party, Yeah, at the party in the Hampton’s,
the rodeo party in the Hampton’s, bizarre Yeah, and you know,
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all of us are just like horrified. And I remember
at some point and I don’t think it would have
been this episode because I think we filmed that party
in far Rockaway. Do you remember this, but.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Somewhere I remember. I was in the trailer for a
really long time because it was a long day. There
was so much going on, and then I had to
go out into this massive party. Yes, it was scary
for me. I’m sorry. How could it not be scared?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yes, And this is what I want to say. Normally,
what I would do for guest star people.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Which were usually men, I would go and.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Try to kind of proactively be friendly because it is
such a scary situation. But because you were like.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
The nemesis, yes, I don’t think nobody was taking to me.
I feel really bad about that. Bridge. Oh it’s okay now,
I know, but.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I feel really bad because like we were all young, yish,
you know what I mean, and like you were new,
and I just feel bad.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don’t worry, okay. But then but then we were
run into each other at the gym all the time, and.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That’s yeah, that was much later, and that was really feeling.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So nice to me. She was not nice to me
at the rodeo party.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, I’m glad that I had a chance, because by
then we weren’t in our characters anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And I could just be like.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
A nor normal person, thank god. Yeah, but I have
always felt really guilty about it because I didn’t even
really realize how much I had internalized Charlotte’s worldview. You
know what I’m saying, Like I was more forgiving of things.
I don’t even want to get into it, but like that,
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you know people who played parts would.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Do or whatever that Charlotte loved, sure what I’m saying.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And then I was less forgiving, you know, if you
were somebody that I felt like, was you know, threatening
my friend or whatever. And it’s like so silly, really,
and I feel.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Bad, No, no, but it’s so it’s so interesting the
things that we look back on and yeah, I have
to say since then, like when we when I came
back for and just like that, it was such a
nice reunion, right, you know, it was so so nice
to see you.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean time and distance and getting to kind of immaturity, Yeah,
maturity and growth and you know, getting to play the
same characters, but yet having that growth within the characters,
even though we’re still kind of supporting Carrie and her
insane ideas of that episode. But that’s also what I love,
like Carrie is a flawed character, as all of us
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were flawed. Characters are flawed characters because people are flawed
and complicated. One of the things I wanted to ask
you about because I have seen over the years that
you’ve commented that people, meaning fans at times, would give
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you a hard time. You bridget a hard time for
playing Natasha.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Even though you did nothing wrong, right, you mean, like
like because they all love Big and Carrie together and
somehow I was in the way. That’s so much.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Fair, Like what would they say to you?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
How did you feel?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think I actually said out loud sometimes like no,
she was having an affair with my husband. Let’s break
this down. Good for you. And I don’t know how
you watched those episodes where she’s sneaking, I mean sneaking
to the hotel room. I mean it’s extreme and it’s
so not feel like, what are you doing, especially when
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the hotel rooms got worse, I know it was like
super swanky and then like kind of suspect. Yes, No,
I’m just saying you didn’t. You didn’t root for her
to stay on that path.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean, how could you? I remember though, And this
again is me being Charlotte. Obviously Charlotte didn’t really know
at the time, but like we were pro Big and
her like it is bizarre and interesting. But then I
also read an interview where you say something to the
effect of you know Big was in love with her
meaning Carrie, And I mean, it is so complicated, right,
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but this is how life is.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
People are complicated and messy, and obviously they have a
whole messy thing for so long. It’s messy for so long. Yeah,
But I also think as a friend, like, why wasn’t
I like, this is messy for so long?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I think you were.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I guess I did at times at times. But then
I think, also when you see your friend who just
can’t move on or can’t get out of that cycle
or whatever it is, what do you do? You know,
what do you do?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Don’t want to, you have to I guess support.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Right, I think you do. I think you do, and
you have to try to be there for them as
they’re going through it or whatever it is. But I
also have this other personal memory I want to share
with you. I was in an elevator with you, yes,
at some point, yes, in between the films and and
just like that, and I knew that there had been
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so at one point we wanted to do a third movie. Yes,
and in that third movie, Natasha was in it. Yes,
did I tell you that? Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because I know I wanted to and I couldn’t remember
if I had the nerve.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
To spit it out. I wonder, did you tell me?
And then I ended up never getting the call or
did you tell me you were.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Because we were supposed to do it and then it
wasn’t good and then there was no third I moved
so bad, but I put me in and just said that.
But I think, well, I didn’t know that was coming obviously, right,
because we’re just we take so many turns in this
thirty year long journey.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yes, but I because.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I saw you, and I thought to myself because in
my mind also by that point, having some space from
being in it, I realized, oh, poor Natasha really suffered
and has had no like kind of closure and like
credit paid, you know, but that’s what the scene was
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going to be, which you kind of got in and
just like that, but it was a bit different in
the movie that didn’t happen.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And I just wanted you to.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Know that you have been in our collective writer’s mind
in terms of wanting you to have that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, that would have been fun, I know, but it
was still fun.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It was fun when it happened, and it happened in
a different way, but thank god it happened because it
was kind of left in such a weird way, you
know what.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I But it was so sweet. When Michael Patrick King called,
He’s like, I want to pitch something to you and
just let me know if you would be open to it,
and I’m like, yes, it would be like I don’t
know what you could just say, I just want you
sitting at a table and I would have been yes, said,
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I would have brought him coffee on set. It doesn’t matter,
like just a good part of the world again, was
just an honor.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I’m so glad.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I’m so glad you felt that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think for us, we feel guilty that we hadn’t
like kind of done you justice, you know, you slash Natasha,
and so I think that’s why he felt like you
might not you know, want to, but we really really
wanted you to, and we’re so happy. Thanks. I’m so
happy that you did. Okay, let’s go back in time
again because I’d love to hear about like the things
that people remember or don’t or whatever. So you go
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on two auditions you end up getting Coyote Ugly and
Sex and the City. Yeah, of course you have no
way of knowing that Sex and the City will go
on to be this big, massive thing, right, But Coyote
Ugly I think everyone thought was going to be a
big thing.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, that was also another another moment of me like
not knowing what I was getting into, and that was
the Jerry Bruckheimer world. I had no idea who I
live under a rock. Let’s just call it Richard. I
really do like, I don’t respect it. I don’t pay
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attention to things that I don’t need to pay attention to.
So and I guess I should have paid attention to
Jerry Berkrimer was.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
But a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
He’s a pretty big deal. And I was a new
young actor and I don’t think I understood the machine
that he was and how he makes careers. And he
was he’s a major. He just makes hits, right, And
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I think the nice thing about not really knowing that
is that you’re just treating each audition as it all
means the same, right, it’s all an exploration of a character,
and you’re all you’re just going out. There’s no pressure,
there’s no like ones better than the other, Right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You don’t know the pressure.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, and you can’t You can’t ever rely on that.
How many times have you done a pilot that you think, oh,
of course it’s got these actors, these producers, this network
behind it, and then it actually never goes anywhere. You know,
people have whole careers doing that. Absolutely, so you can’t
ever know what’s going to be a hit or not. No, no, no,
(23:15):
so yeah, I remember that was like everyone wanted that job.
I didn’t know that, but I remember seeing the billboard
on that building on Sunset Boulevard when you’re you’re heading
I believe east, and it’s right on Sunset before Losianaga,
and it’s huge, huge, and all of us were on it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I was like, oh, okay, that’s kind of what when
I figured out that that was going to be bigger
than what I you know, because we were just in it.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
We were just you know, but that’s learning to dance
and learning to bartend and just working out with ur Again.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I love it, And did you you went to the
real place? I assume and did the research because I
remember all that. I was sober by that point, so
I was like, I’m going to stay away from that place.
But I do feel like somehow I ended up there.
Did we film there? Maybe? I don’t know.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I’m sure you felt. I’m sure you feel they did.
But I think I was going there socially prior to yeah,
because you were very cool, Well you were. I just
maybe was out later than I should have been. Oh listen,
and I lived in the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean you
live in the life. Yeah, this was the probably like
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a diner now or a Bubby’s or a store or
a store, you know what I mean, probably.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Like the right right, Yeah, because Bubbies moved, which is interesting. Yeah, Bubbies, Yeah,
Bubbies with the pie. You guys were going to reminisce.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Now, okay, so let’s go back.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You did the short little one episode with us second season,
then you go off, you do Coyote Ugly, then you
come back there’s season okay, and did they just yes,
you did. They would just call you for and say like,
are you available? So you were just doing one by one?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, it was just a day lare. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, no, no, wow, that’s insane.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And every time Chris Nouth would be like, Hi, nice
to meet you, They’re like, dude, and your wife, yes, Chris.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh my god, that is classic.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Wow wow wow, Okay, well I love Chris. I mean,
and then like years later we bump into each other
in California and he’s like, and there’s my wife. I’m like,
you couldn’t remember I was your wife when I was
your wife or now I’m not. No, I’m not your wife.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
That’s very Chris. That’s a very Chris story. Yes, Chris
was was like weirdly in the moment in weird ways,
you know what I’m saying. The thing that that occurs
to me that I want to talk to you about.
I mean, it’s funny because we’re rewatching this one episode,
but you have one line which is adorable, but you
really do it is just such a powerfully horrible scene. Really,
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like even rewatching it all these years later.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean, the one.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
No, I’m going to get to that one. That one also,
you know, the one where she sees you together for
the first time, the rodeo slash beach party. I mean,
I think because we absolutely do not see it coming, right,
everyone thinks BIG’s in Paris. We have no idea she’s
been trying to move on with. And she’s flirting with
that guy, the doctor, the doctor who’s good on paper,
(26:34):
which of course means it’s not good in general. No offense,
but you know everyone knows that.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
But I think that’s pretty clear.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But the thing that I also think is so interesting
about the episode is is kind of because I’m trying
to pretend Charlie’s briend, trying to pretend that she’s in
her twenties, there’s an innocence.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
About the episode.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You know, we’re at the beach, it’s like younger girls
and all kind of people are around, and we don’t
see it coming at all. You think it’s just going
to be kind of like a crazy party episode. You know,
Charlotte gets crabs from this guy that she goes out with,
which is mortifying and brilliant and mortifying, and then all
(27:15):
of a sudden it ends with this, you know, basically
a tragedy for Carrie, which is that she looks over
she sees your goddess young self laughing as you say,
and literally you could have said nothing, it didn’t matter,
just you standing.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
There with him laughing and him laughing with you because
he seems so different with you.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, because with Carrie he’s very kind of stern and yes,
like kind of covered and manipulative or whatever, and with
you he just seems kind of relaxed and giggly, kind
of like who is that? So just the vision, and
Sarah plays it so beautifully, like you just feel her,
(27:57):
you know, her heart just you know, oh the awful
And then she tries to kind of like, hey, how
are you what are you doing here? And he says
all kinds of stupid things, you know, and then you
very politely say nice to meet you, and excuse yourself
because you can see and this is what I mean
about you being just so grounded and good, like you
can see in your eyes you oh no. You also
(28:20):
say Carrie, I’ve heard so much about you, which is
also so devastating. Yeah, like he’s told you about her awful, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
But I do feel like there’s a look that mister
Big it’s I don’t know how to say, mister Big.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It’s cool you said it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Mister Big gives to Carrie when they’re alone, and he’s like,
I was gonna call you like there. It was so
touching and moving and like heartbreaking a little bit that, yeah,
but also Ken, I know, but I like make it
(29:01):
you kind of I don’t know. I mean, yes, yes
it was. It wasn’t cold, it wasn’t like he wasn’t
sure he was he was sorry. Well maybe I thought
for him, for him, I did.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I did not feel for him, not one iota in
my rewatching. I’m sure I did at the time, Right
in my rewatching, I think, like, what a fucking apple? Well, yes, like,
come on, look at her there, so fantastic, just devastated,
you know, just like wound the heart, and you, you know,
(29:35):
so beautiful and cool and calm and poised. You know,
you’re so poised and polite that you excuse yourself because
you can see that there’s you know, unfinished business something
something going on. And also he told you about her, right,
what did he even tell you about her? It’s so
well written, obviously the writers are incredible, but so well
(29:55):
reacted by all three of you in terms of the
unspoken moments there, which is to me why you then
became this part, you know, And it reminds me a
little bit of Kyle. When we hired Kyle to play
my Trey McDougall. He was supposed to do. I believe.
I have to ask him. I believe he was supposed
to do five episodes. And the idea was that he
(30:17):
was supposed to be you know, Charlotte is now like,
I’m going to get married. I’m going to get married.
I’m going to get married like a broken record. And
then she meets him in the street and of course
he looks like he looks dream a dream, and she’s like,
oh my god, I found him, and everything is perfect
on the outside, not so perfect in the relationship, but
she’s still going to make it work. And the idea
(30:40):
originally had been that he would be very annoying, that
his character would be very annoying, would be very good
looking but very annoying, that no one would want to
talk to him. So there’s a scene on the boat
with Chris, Sir, Jessica, Carrie Big Me and Kyle, and
I’m supposed to be laughing at all of his jokes.
They’re supposed to be terrible, and the two of them
(31:00):
are supposed to be like, oh God, he’s awful, what
are we going to do? But he was Kyle, he
was so charming, he couldn’t be not cheering, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So we just shifted the writing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know, he was supposed to last five episodes. It
was not supposed to work out, and then he was supposed.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
To be gone. And how long was he on?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
For?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Years? Like I can’t even I don’t know, three years years?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, Like we got married, we try to have a baby.
It’s there’s still problems the whole time, but Charlotte is persistent,
She’s going to make it work, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
And he’s Kyle.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We had to write leave the part about him being annoying,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And everybody liked him.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, we were all collectively completely infatuated with him. How
could you not be? Yeah, I think that’s also what
happened with you.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And I’m going to go.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Get to the bottom of it with Michael Patrick. But
like I think you showed up and everybody’s like like
the light bulbs just you know, it’s just perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That’s what I think happened. It was well, it was
it was a gift that kept giving. I’m so glad. Now,
what was that like for you?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Like, Okay, coyote ugly comes out and then you’re still
coming back on the show. You were doing so many
different things. That’s how I remember it. What what was
your experience? I don’t know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I think at that time I had fully just I
had this perception that you couldn’t model and be an actress.
So I put all the modeling aside and just focused
on acting. And so I wasn’t really I mean, you
do you do, you know, shoots for promotional things and everything,
(32:47):
but you are your actor self, a.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Magazine cover you, right, not the model sun You were
talking and you.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Know, talking, you know what I’m saying, talking, Yeah, yeah,
So I think, yeah, it wasn’t fun. I feel like
I was doing a lot of a lot of films
at that time. I think so too.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I think you were really busy, and I think we
were just lucky to be still getting you.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You know, I think I was. Yeah, it was a whirlwind.
It was a whirlwind. It was like those two projects
at the same time. Really just the momentum went.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Absolutely And I love to ask people this because it’s
not always what you think, Like, did it was it
what you thought it would be? Did it make you happy?
Was it overwhelming? What was it like to have that momentum?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don’t know if I ever thought about what it was.
I didn’t go up.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You know, yeah, you didn’t analyze it.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I didn’t analyze it. I always felt so fortunate to
get the projects that I got, and I you know,
I was working with you know, Beneffleck and al Pacino
and like Colin Ferrell and just like a lot of
good projects that were challenging me in different ways. So
(34:14):
you were rolling with it. I was rolling with it.
And it was just like when you step back and think,
while this this happened, like it is wild? Is it
is totally wild?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
But I think I think as a and I see
some of the young like like Sweeney, what’s her name,
Sydney Sidney Sweeney, I’m just like, I’m watching her and
it’s just so fantastic the success that she’s having. And
at the same time, you just hope that she can
(34:47):
maneuver because when you and I were coming up, it
was not what it is now as far as social
media and the attention, the paparazzi and the lack of
privacy and all that, especially the commentary and the commentary, well, yes,
I mean I.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Would say like for Sarah Jessica, the lack of privacy
was a problem, especially when she got pregnant, like they
you know, I was so worried about her every single day.
They chased her so relentless.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I can’t imagine horrific, horrific when she’s pregnant.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
That was when I really thought, like, I don’t I
don’t want that. I don’t want that. No, I don’t
want that at all. And she didn’t want that, but
she didn’t have a choice at that point, you know,
so I think we had our own version. I think
now the thing that’s weird and different and problematic is
the there’s so much negative input on social media. Yet
(35:54):
social media is also really important, so it’s hard to
just totally ignore it, you know, in many ways. I mean,
there are people who do, and more power to them obviously, Yeah,
but like like for her age, for that group, it’s
like it’s a it’s a way that they communicate, you know,
it’s part of their lives, right, and then to have
things go, you know, in the crazy ways that they go.
(36:17):
I mean, she doesn’t add campaign and then people freak out, right, like.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I thought it was brilliant, right, and also that’s not
her idea, No, you know what I mean, but I
do love like this generation knows how to use it
as a tool and embrace it in ways that I
I was just behind on and not comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I mean, look, we all are. It’s weird for us, right,
Like I struggle. I struggle myself. I try to do
it because I have this podcast and you know whatever,
and it is like it is a whole business now really,
But I get young people to help me out because
I don’t know, like the idea for us in our
generation of just inviting people in your house to film you.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That’s weird. Yeah it’s still weird, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Like it’s a strange thing, but I think if you
grew up with it, it’s not weird at all. Right,
So it is one of those generational issues obviously, but
it is super fascinating to watch. I feel for the
young people because I feel like we all had a
level of you know, bizarre scrutiny. Obviously, you were in
(37:22):
the modeling industry. It’s not an easy industry to come.
It might have been actually been easier to leave modeling
and go to acting.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
What was your perception, Yeah, well I think that I
struggled in the modeling because I had maybe opinions, sure,
other things that I needed to express, and you didn’t
have that avenue in that and then. But that’s part
(37:54):
of the part of the reason why I don’t watch
my material afterwards is because I don’t want to get
judgmental or nitty gritty on how I’m looking, because to me,
that’s not the point. Absolutely, so I don’t want to
go down that route.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I agree, that’s brilliant, super smart.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
So and it’s hard for me as a because I’ve
started directing over the last you know, four years, and
to have to direct yourself is very bizarre because you
don’t want to be paying attention to your own performance
or how you’re looking, so you rely on other people.
But then you don’t have the eye the same I
(38:38):
and you would have been maybe adjusting things whatever. But
I have incredible respect for actors who can do it
so well, like Bradley Cooper. Oh my god, like, how
how down to that man and his talent? I agree,
in front of and behind the screen absolutely yeah, so
I know, I know affleck yeah. Also, how do we
(39:01):
do it? You said a fluck? He I know, but
it sounded like the commercial.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, Ben.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
F Ben yeah, he does a great job. He does
a great job.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
So when you went to Blue Bloods, so you did.
Oh John Wick, I mean one of.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
My another gifts that just kept giving. Incredible and so great.
I always love to see you.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
If I’m on a plane and I’ve seen everything that’s
on the plane and John Wick’s there, I’ll rewatch old
John Wick and I always love to see you.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So great, so great, Keanu, I know a dream Creamy.
He’s on Broadway beyond. I know.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It’s incredible, it’s incredible. I mean, it’s just so great
to be a part of our industry for so long,
so long.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
And I went to the last I met you.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Oh you can talk about him if you want, but
I met you.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It was it was fun that I went to the
premiere and he’s like, can you believe we’ve been doing
this for ten years? I was like, what ten years?
He’s like, yeah, the first time we did this shoot
was ten years ago. It’s like, wow, that is incredible.
It’s incredible. It’s a joy, you know, what a joy,
and like for you to be on this show for
as long as you have been, and then you know,
(40:17):
I had the blessing of Blue Bloods as well. So
it’s just, you know, it is We’re so lucky. We’re
so lucky.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
We’re incredibly lucky. Now, you did fourteen seasons of blue Blood.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Fourteen seasons. Yeah, and we did have a lot of
the crew from Sex and the City. I know, yeah,
we took them.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I know. I’m glad because I mean because they had
a good job. It was good. Yeah, but wonderful, wonderful
crew members. And then so blue Blood is ended and
there’s some kind of spin off something what’s happening?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
There’s a spin off called Boston Blue Got It with
Donnie got It?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Got It?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
And yeah, so do you go on there? Are you
going to go on there? Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yes, So that keeps on giving as well. That keeps
on giving, and I’m directing on that. So that’s great.
How fine. When did you start directing on blue Bloods? Yeah?
On Blue Bloods?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Do you love it?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I definitely enjoy it. I like being on that side
of the camera. I like working with actors, I like
participating with all the different departments. It really just like
revived my interest in the business to be you know,
just getting just to another layer and another layer and
another layer. Yeah, it’s it was great. Does it get
(41:30):
boring for you just to be acting now? Well, I
haven’t really. I mean we just finished the show like
a year ago, got it, and I did, you know,
a couple of projects after that. But I’ve got a team,
you know, I’ve got a kid who’s graduating from high
school soon. So I’m kind of lame. Oh my god,
(41:51):
you have a lot to do. I’m just in the
mom work, leaning into that yes and then congratulation, yeah, thanks,
and then directing on this. So we’ll see, we’ll see.
But you know, the business itself.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Is coming through ohs.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Metamorphosis, and so it continues, and it continues. But I think,
you know, it will be really nice to I’ve been
working NonStop since high school in one career, you know,
like in credible after high school. So it’s like, this
is the first time I’ve had a like nice conscious break.
(42:24):
That’s nice. So it’s been nice.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
That’s so nice. I think it’s so important because you
can’t really reflect on things if you’re just going, going, going, going,
But I also think in our jobs, going, going, going
is a huge blessing and you’re aware of that, you know, it’s.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
A huge blessing, and but you know it’s I don’t know.
I feel like it’s been a blessing. But then while
you’re in the circus of moving from project to project
and doing all these things, like your your concept of
time is oh yeah, that was season three or oh
(43:01):
yeah one Africa on that show, right, you know your
timetable is chunks of time with the poster in mind. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely I do. And yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
It’s hard for me with the podcast to people will say, well,
when did this happen? In my mind everything is reorganized,
not as reality, you know what I’m saying.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
You don’t.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I’m not a linear date date person or whatever I’m
trying to be because I have to be now. And
sometimes I’ll see an episode I’ll think, well, I thought
that was in season five.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
In season one, Like it’s wacky, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
But I mean it’s kind of fun in a way too,
because I do think one of the joys of what
we do is that you’re not in one setting at
all times, like a right job, you know, we have
just infinites.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Every day is a new day, right.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Interest and change and novelty, and you know, sometimes occasionally
it’s difficult, right, but often it’s really a joy.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It is so much fun having Bridget moynihan here. We
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